tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353719.post1976090635963646969..comments2024-02-02T09:08:38.643-05:00Comments on The White Man Blog: News, Views, and Reviews on topics of ancient and contemporaty interest: Michael Pearl, False Prophet?The White Manhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06732782601569135839noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353719.post-66706141036714721612011-10-17T09:10:13.018-05:002011-10-17T09:10:13.018-05:00OK, TulipGirl, you've made your point. I don&#...OK, TulipGirl, you've made your point. I don't accept your conclusions, nor you mine, so we've arrived at a bit of a stalemate. But since this is my blog, I'll have the last word. Just today in your blog you cite the example of a Michael-Pearl type family, none of whose children are turning out--and you act as if it DOES matter that the children aren't turning out. But if all of Mike and Debi's children DID turn out, then it appears that the problem is not in the teacher, but the student. <br /><br />I have seen all of the above techniques used by parents on their own children, and the children DID turn out and are on good terms with their parents as adults. Any hard feelings yet unresolved are strictly due to the parent's human frailties in being inconsistent, not in a dutiful application of Pearls' teachings. <br /><br />My final point is that all four of the dead children mentioned on your blog were being disciplined by people who were NOT their parents. I agree that there IS something wrong with Michael Pearl's teaching, and that is that it doesn't work so well in applying it to someone else's children. In fact, the results can be deadly.The White Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06732782601569135839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353719.post-36299322124387619912011-10-16T10:38:05.861-05:002011-10-16T10:38:05.861-05:00QUOTE: "I stand by my contention that three d...QUOTE: "I stand by my contention that three dead children, none of whom were being treated in the way that the Pearls recommend,"<br /><br />Each of the three dead children WERE treated in accordance with what Pearl taught. . . and what their parents did was the far end of "consistency" -- which is mandatory within the Pearls' teachings and parenting approach.<br /><br />For example:<br /><br />QUOTE: Michael Pearl O“If you have to sit on him to spank him then do not hesitate. And hold him there until he is surrendered. Prove that you are bigger, tougher, more patiently enduring and are unmoved by his wailing. Defeat him totally. Accept no conditions for surrender. No compromise. You are to rule over him as a benevolent sovereign. Your word is final.” (Remember Sean Paddock?)<br /><br />QUOTE: Michael Pearl advises, "Now, there are some flavors or textures that we just have an aversion for. Allow each child one or two dislikes, just don’t let their preferences be too limited. If a child doesn’t like what is on the table, let him do without until the next meal. A little fasting is good training. If you get a child who is particularly finicky and only eats a limited diet, then feed him mainly what he doesn’t like until he likes it." (Remember Hana Williams?)<br /><br />QUOTE: Michael Pearl writes, "She then administers about ten slow, patient licks on his bare legs. He cries in pain. If he continues to show defiance by jerking around and defending himself, or by expressing anger, then she will wait a moment and again lecture him and again spank him. When it is obvious he is totally broken, she will hand him the rag and very calmly say, “Johnny, clean up your mess.” He should very contritely wipe up the water." (Remember Lydia Schatz?)<br /><br />Three dead children may not "make" a false prophet. . . but false teaching does. What Michael and Debi Pearl teach in their parenting materials neither line up with Biblical Christianity nor reflect the Gospel in family life. (See: http://www.tulipgirl.com/index.php/2011/10/on-the-pearls-and-parenting-once-again/)<br /><br /><br />QUOTE: "If there was something seriously wrong with Michael Pearl's child-raising philosophy, I would expect at least one of his five children to show it."<br /><br />That is illogical. His kids may have turned out okay (or may not... I've heard conflicting reports). He is a teacher and prides himself on his influence. He is accountable for his words. If his teachings are leading to abuse, and even death, then he needs to accept the moral responsibility for that.TuliPGirlhttp://www.tulipgirl.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353719.post-42886782328533031802011-10-14T17:39:37.652-05:002011-10-14T17:39:37.652-05:00Yes, TulipGirl, I'm serious. I'm not sayin...Yes, TulipGirl, I'm serious. I'm not saying that Michael Pearl is not a false prophet in some way or another. In fact, I've given full rein in the comments on this blog to those who have a case to make that he is. But I stand by my contention that three dead children, none of whom were being treated in the way that the Pearls recommend, do not a false prophet make. If there was something seriously wrong with Michael Pearl's child-raising philosophy, I would expect at least one of his five children to show it. All of them are quite happy with how their parents raised them. Not so with Frank Waldron Phelps.The White Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06732782601569135839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353719.post-903244974114527742011-10-14T05:48:40.327-05:002011-10-14T05:48:40.327-05:00"Only three dead children is a remarkable acc..."Only three dead children is a remarkable accomplishment"<br /><br />Are you serious?!?!?<br /><br />But as to being a false teacher, the theology and doctrine promoted by the Pearls is foundationally faulty -- and with such a faulty foundation, it's no wonder that the application has led to antagonism in the home, abuse, and even death.<br /><br />http://scitascienda.com/2011/06/25/review-of-no-greater-joy-child-training-doctrine/TulipGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10491713586488210547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8353719.post-11723861332387579552011-10-13T16:07:44.716-05:002011-10-13T16:07:44.716-05:00Good article.Good article.Scott or Pamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09675457193877575890noreply@blogger.com